Curse

Xue Yi Liang · Nov 10, 2005, 03:30 AM // 03:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by zehly

Can I borrow a firearm please?

Sure. After a 14 day waiting period with an FBI background check including urine sample, blood sample, buccal mucosal scrapings, fingernail cuttings and stigmatization by the general public and by a politically biased news media.

No problem.

Techie · Nov 10, 2005, 03:33 AM // 03:33

Lol nice...

Anyways...

Thats a solid OC man!

I think highest I could get on my 7800GT stock was about 550/1200, or somewhere within that area.

With the dry ice, I got it up to 702/1430. But the thing is, I only use dry ice when I'm OC'ing and benchmarking, I don't use it on a constant basis as I would be using 5+ lbs of it a day, which is expensive.

Omega_2005 · Nov 10, 2005, 01:31 PM // 13:31

OK, about OCing graphics cards... Can you power a crappy Radeon 7000 (Mobility) to about 2x its processor speed so it can run this game faster?

Aracos79 · Nov 10, 2005, 01:57 PM // 13:57

Radeon 7000? Wow... finally someone with a worse graphics card than me. I thought I was the only one still running a dinosaur.

Omega_2005 · Nov 10, 2005, 02:03 PM // 14:03

true true... but I hear some players still use a 32bit graphics card...

TyLLy_4 · Nov 10, 2005, 02:04 PM // 14:04

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Originally Posted by heist23

well, some friends and i found some way to propel tiny objects (i.e. pebbles) using dry ice. it went something like:

step 1: get some dry ice and some water, along with a 2-liter bottle
step 2: dump some crushed dry ice along with some water inside the bottle
step 3: drop the pebble inside, close the bottle
step 4: once enough pressure has been built up, release the bottle...

i'm not sure if this works, since it was about 6 years since we did it.

i got a better one .... o get some paint striper and put it in a PLASTIC bottle (the smal pepsies would be niceeee) then u put 2 lil ball of aluminum paper .... then u ligth a match put it inside and close it rlly fast and see what happens ... (get away from the bottle)

IT BURST IN TO FLAMES WITH AN AWSOME EXPLOSION NOT WITHOUT INFLATING LIKE A BALON FIRST

(i had kind of a geeky chemstry inface .. bu it was a lot of fun blowing things up)

thares also the one of the magneium pill ....... u put one lil cube of magnesium Calciate (i dont know the spelling of elements in english the worn in spanish its Fosfato d emagnesio III) on a sink .... when some one opens it ..... BAM!!!

Sister Rosette · Nov 10, 2005, 02:12 PM // 14:12

Ooh ooh if this turns into computer destruction I have some fun stories!

unienaule · Nov 10, 2005, 02:26 PM // 14:26

Ok, so I told my teacher in high school (I was working for him on computers) not to order the crappy super cheap Japanese hard drives. But he did anyway, and made me ghost/install them. A few WEEKS later, many of the hard drives start crashing. One teacher says her computer works fine, but it shuts itself down sometimes and smells funny. So, we hook up the hard drive, everything seems fine, then we look at it. Wisps of smoke are coming out of it from somewhere. Never did find out where, unplugged and junked it too fast.

Old Dood · Nov 10, 2005, 02:43 PM // 14:43

I can't stand weird stuff like that. I installed a vid card for a friend a few years back. After install I saw a wisp of smoke and the smell of ozone. I instantly pulled the plug out of the computer. Said many many bad words....re-seated the card....and everything was fine. He never had a problem. I know it was clean. There had to be something in the slot that cooked off when powered up. Scared me...I didn't want to have to replace a motherboard and vid card for doing a good deed.

SOT · Nov 10, 2005, 07:35 PM // 19:35

As I have stated in previous debates about how this does that or what is rebooting those...I have real, on-the-damn-job experience building machines. Nearly 10 years.

That being said, I am not even going to enter the arena on what is better or what is worse regarding overclocking. I will simply go out like a text book would:

Overclocking is idiotic. Anytime you push the chip beyond factory-release spec, be it for juice in the overall system, or on your graphics card, you are taking a risk. How you choose to go about it has been debated more times than when the Roman's Actually fell, but the point is, if you overclock your machine, or the other parts of the machine, you are facing heat issues, shorts, outright FIRE, and basically, you are a dumbass.

Yeah, overclocking has been done successfully, but what many people fail to mention while on their soapbox is, those people have the experience and the money to replace it all, when the shit hits the mobo fan...

Have a nice day...

Techie · Nov 10, 2005, 07:47 PM // 19:47

Wow, I couldn't disagree with you more SOT. You obviously do not know of precautions and measures that must be taken before overclocking.

Not just an everyday dumbass decides to sit down and crank up the mhz on his core and memory, unless he has a GPU death wish.

The idea of overclocking is NOT getting it to start a fire or fry anything. With a slow overclocks and decent cooling it is almost guaranteed you will not burn or fry anything.

SOT · Nov 10, 2005, 08:00 PM // 20:00

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Originally Posted by Techie

Wow, I couldn't disagree with you more SOT. You obviously do not know of precautions and measures that must be taken before overclocking.

The point to my post was that I in fact do understand the precautions, and I was, in a roundabout way, trying to show that much of the commentary in this thread about what to do is not only misleading, it is downright false in some cases, and there is always at least one person out there that might read this detritus, and feel the need to do it, then BOOM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Techie

Not just an everyday dumbass decides to sit down and crank up the mhz on his core and memory, unless he has a GPU death wish.

And yeah, they do, especially if their peers excite them into an interest in doing it.

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Originally Posted by Techie

The idea of overclocking is NOT getting it to start a fire or fry anything. With a slow overclocks and decent cooling it is almost guaranteed you will not burn or fry anything.

I did not claim what the aims are for overclocking. What the goal of overclocking is, well, is pretty straightforward, depending on point of view. Save money and time on....opening photoshop, or get better frame-rates etc when running Doom III. I never, not once, said that overclocking was a bad idea, I said it has inherent risk that basically none of you bothered to cover.

If you want to debate how dry ice works better than a crysostasis from Galaxy 9, then by all means, you kids have a hootin old time. But please keep in mind that not everyone that reads technical forum posts has scruples, and you may want to include the safety steps, rather than simply proclaiming you found out how to use an AMD processor to halt the aging process in tomatoes...

Aracos79 · Nov 10, 2005, 08:14 PM // 20:14

Well how about an intelligent tech question then. Pardon my ignorance, but how much of an effect can ambient room temperature have on operating temps? My apartment has VERY poor air circulation, and I live in a very warm place. So during most of the year (except the main winter months, Dec-Feb) my ambient room temp sits near 80F.

I had a temp monitor on my last mobo, and the processor just died. I was experiencing idle temps near 120-122F and load temps near 135F. This was in a case with THREE case fans. Was ambient temp a factor, or was my in-case cooling just inadequate? It was an AMD Athlon 1.5ghz CPU.

Sir Skullcrasher · Nov 10, 2005, 08:23 PM // 20:23

I seriously need a new computer case. Currently running a ATI x800 XT videocard. And usually i get 60 to 70 cel when i play games (no vent in my computer unless i take the case off) and when it idel its at 50 or 55. I either need to change the cooling fan on the videocard or upgrade my case.

Divinitys Creature · Nov 10, 2005, 08:54 PM // 20:54

- There's no replacement for displacement -

I agree and disagree with the above, which is borrowed from discussions about cars. Also what SOT said.

Overclocking can be fun - knock yourself out. It's cool this thread climbed out of the flames (no puns intended).

Heh I coined "no puns intended" I win!

Techie · Nov 10, 2005, 10:20 PM // 22:20

By no means was this meant to be an OC guide in any way, it was just me saying what I got an older processor to. I knew that it was going to fry, which is why I didn't do it on something like a 4000+ or something of the sort.

And ambient temperatures have a bigger effect than you might think. Average temps in Winter are a lot lower than in Summer.

zehly · Nov 10, 2005, 11:12 PM // 23:12

Okay, had some fun in the lab

PENTIUM 4 AT 4.3 GHZ

Didn't bring all the printouts with me to work but here is what we did:

Materials:
1. 3cm diameter copper pipe, 1 meter tall
2. 25 gallon rubbermaid tub
3. 20 gallons of dielectric gel
4. 2L of liquid nitrogen (

)
5. Bravery

Process for doing this:
1. Go find some student that works in mechanical engineering and have him "glue" the copper tube to the dye of a brand new Pentium 4 3.0GHz processor. THERE WILL NOT BE A HEATSINK ON THE PROCESSOR.
2. Fill your rubbermaid tub with about 4cm of dielectric gel.
3. Place the motherboard (and attached necessary cables) into the tub.
4. Fill the tub with the rest of the dielectric gel.
5. *SLOWLY* begin pouring liquid nitrogen into the tube.
6. Power on
7. Keep pouring SLOWLY until you fill the tube up as much as is safe.
8. Beg the mechanical engineer to figure out a way to make this pouring method easier.

It does work though

Techie · Nov 10, 2005, 11:41 PM // 23:41

I'm sure with a higher voltage that thing can go way past 4.3, I have seen people get 3.0's to 6 Ghz with LN2.

zehly · Nov 10, 2005, 11:47 PM // 23:47

Like I conceded.. I don't know everything about overclocking... just the physics

I should get together a team to overclock one of these suckers. I'll just write it up as a "proof of concept experiment."

Omega_2005 · Nov 11, 2005, 12:02 AM // 00:02

Hmm... well has anyone tried overclocking a DUAL-CORE Pentium 4 yet?